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Donald Campbell's avatar

Great article and I heartily agree with you. I have carried a 38 special since I first pinned on a badge in 1973. I am comfortable as the 38 special will still do everything I need it to do as long as I do my part.

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I enjoyed reading this. It's very similar to my thoughts on my favorite platform the semi automatic. I just like the extra rounds and easier reload. A few years ago though I got to thinking about my ballistics. I carried a 40sw 165 grain speer gold dot. Solid very accepted self defense round. In the 411 to 420 ft lb range it was significant step up from then current 9mm rounds. I thought it was a very good middle of the road, better than 9mm but not as expensive as 10mm or 45auto.

I now carry all copper 60gr rounds that are 533 ft lbs of energy. Modern tech and ballistics have given the 40sw a 25% increase in muzzle energy and almost double the velocity. I had been looking at moving to a different gun and ammo to give lighter recoil with low end rifle velocity out of a pistol. New technology meant that all I had to do was purchase new ammo. Keep the same gun, magazines and holsters but step up to new performance. It also dropped about a pound off my belt between loaded gun and spare magazines.

Today I have moved down to 9mm because of age induced weaker hands and arms and to have a even smaller lighter gun and magazines. I'm still getting 462 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle.

I looked up their ammo for 38sp and it was puzzling. 250ft lbs at the muzzle. Standard loads run from 200 ft lbs to 350ft lbs already. I would be very curious why most calibers get a very substantial increase in energy while the 38sp is so anemic with their (liberty ammunition's civil defense) ammo.

9mm 462 FPE 2040 FPS

38sp 250 ft lbs 1500 FPS

380auto 250 ft lbs 1500 FPS

40sw 533 ft lbs 2000 FPS

10mm 780 ft lbs 2,400 FPS

357 magnum 490 ft lbs 2100 FPS

357 sig 587 ft lbs 2300 FPS

45 acp 600 ft lbs 1900 FPS

all I can think is that it has to do with sami specs for chamber pressures. Admittedly with the light weight of the bullets (between 50 and 78 gr. 78 for 45acp and all other 50 and 60 gr) there isn't a huge difference in bullet weight. So keeping the muzzle velocity down on the 38sp and 380 auto seem to be aimed at reducing chamber pressure.

:) now I will add this since these bullets really seem to hit that new stuff bad bone that a lot of us have over changing tried and true rounds for newer vastly different ones. Just about every time I post about these bullets I hear about how they don't have the penetration of ones like the speer gold dot. With it being closer to 12 to 14 inches than 19 to 25 ish inches. That is one of my likes for this round. We are not like cops that get a pass if a bullet goes through our target and hits someone else. With more energy on impact at close range and less penetration I am at a trade off I like. Also there are 5 different wound channels compared to one with standard rounds.

They do make a new Overwatch 9mm round that has deeper penetration comparable to the older school ammo and a 473 ft lbs muzzle energy. I guess it was at the request of military that they developed it at least that is what is on their webpage. it has a 72 gr bullet compared to 50gr for the civil defense which also lowered muzzle velocity to 1700 FPS.

this just all ties back into the article here. Newer and divergent upgrades in tech for bullets keeps older platforms relevant and comparable to more modern calibers/guns.

Ballistics and terminal ballistics are some fascinating subjects.

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